Woman Discovers Forged Birth Certificate (Full Episode) | Paternity Court


Please be seated. Hello, Your Honor. Hello. This is the case of
Robinson V. Harms.
Thank you, Ron.
Good day, everyone. AUDIENCE: Good day. Ms. Robinson, you are suing your mother for paternity fraud and are here to prove
that Mr. Moore is your biological father, even though your mother put another man’s name on your birth certificate, is that correct? That’s correct, Your Honor. Ms. Harms, you’re certain Mr. Moore is not
your daughter’s father and claim her case of
paternity fraud is outrageous. Yes, Your Honor. JUDGE LAKE: And you plan
to prove that today? Yes, Your Honor. Mr. Moore is currently
waiting outside the courtroom. We will hear from
him in a moment. But first, Ms. Robinson,
why did you wait 36 years to
come to court? Honestly, Your Honor, I don’t feel that I’m the one that waited for 36 years. I feel that my mom
waited 36 years to help me find
who my father is. And I have always,
you know, tried to ask her about my father. I guess it was a part
of her past she didn’t just wanna
bring up, so it always got pushed
to the back burner, or I was told, you know,
get the hell out of her face, leave her alone, don’t ask any questions
about it, you know who your dad is. CATHLEEN: She’s lying. I’ve always told her
who her dad was and to my
knowledge… JENNIFER: Who? Who was supposed
to be my dad? …it’s not Mr. Moore. I had already moved on. But the other guy
that she says
is my father, I look nothing like. And she doesn’t
look like him either. JENNIFER: I look like him. CATHLEEN: I have never kept secrets from her, Your Honor. I’ve always been honest to the best
of my ability to her. That’s not true.
We were supposed to
come here weeks ago and my mom,
for some reason,
she was nervous. It wasn’t that I was nervous. I just didn’t wanna
come here at that time to listen to any more
of their lies. Yeah. You, nobody
want to deal
with the past, but I’m the past. Because, Ms. Harms
in your mind you’re saying, “I know who your father is
and I already told you.” CATHLEEN: Yes, ma’am.
I had already moved on. He is not your father. When you say you
had already moved
on, explain that. You’re saying you
moved on from… From Mr. Moore. I never thought
he was the father because I had already
moved on, Your Honor. JUDGE LAKE: So, you’re
saying you got pregnant after you already
moved on away from him, so there’s no way he could
be your biological father. So you didn’t even feel like there was any reason
to entertain that? Yes, Your Honor. And Ms. Robinson,
why are you so convinced that he is a possibility? Your Honor, I’m convinced because I’ve heard
a lot of rumors in the small town
we’re from in Arkansas. Everybody says
that this man is my dad. You know, he’s always
came to me and said
he is my dad. JUDGE LAKE: Really? But the thing was I was always being sent
with the other man. So… CATHLEEN: Excuse me,
Your Honor, that’s another lie.
She has never been sent… Yes, I was being sent… …with another man. …to another man’s
mother’s house. No, you are…
No, you were not. That is a lie, Your Honor. I don’t know where
she’s getting this from? Who is my grandma? Your Honor, what
is she saying? Rumor has it, that’s… Oh, what? Does she think
she look like Mr. Moore? Yes, I do. Why? Because his nose? She’s got a normal
nose, Your Honor. No. It’s not a
normal nose, Mom. So, when did you first
hear about Mr. Moore being a possible
biological father? The first time I heard
about it was kind of weird because I was young
and I was just told that he’s not you’re father. CATHLEEN: Your Honor,
excuse me. If she thought that,
why would it take 36 years? Because no one lets
me talk, as you can
see right now. JUDGE LAKE: Wait, I want
her to finish
the story ’cause I… (AUDIENCE APPLAUDS) Nobody lets me talk. I mean, never. What kid doesn’t wanna
know their father? What little girl doesn’t
wanna know her daddy? JUDGE LAKE:So,
I wanna understand this.
You were told specifically,Mr. Moore is not your father? Yes, by my mother. Did you ask the question? How did this come up? She had just told
me one day because, you know,
I used to go back and forth from Michigan to Arkansas. So, I guess, she felt that
if I went down to Arkansas I might see him. JENNIFER: She came to
me and told… JUDGE LAKE: Let her finish. that, “If a Vernon
ever came to you “and told you
that he was your dad, “tell him to get out
your face, leave you alone, “and he’s not
your father,” so… JUDGE LAKE: And that’s
Mr. Moore? Mr. Moore, yes. So, you were told as a child, if someone comes up
to you and says he’s you’re biological father, just tell him to get out
your face? Get out my face,
leave me alone, you’re not my dad. And it’s like, “Who is Vernon?
Who is Mr. Moore?” JUDGE LAKE: Did you
ask that question? Not at the time.
I was a kid. I just listened to
what she said. JENNIFER: My whole life
has been very ill it really has. JUDGE LAKE: I understand.
You know, I often say
in this courtroom, when people say to me
I did not have my father and I felt like there
was a missing piece. I say it because
I have had my father, and he is loving, and kind, and my number one fan, and I could not imagine
my life without him in it. And that’s all I want. JUDGE LAKE: And when you say I never had that,
I feel for you, because I know what
you’re missing, I really do. And I see the tears
in your eyes even at 36. JENNIFER:
Other people take it for… I’m glad that you can say
you had your father, but you have empathy to know how I can feel about it. JUDGE LAKE: Absolutely. Because a lot of people
that have their fathers, they look at me like,
“I don’t even like my daddy.” “Girl, you’re better
without him.” No, I could better with him, because I was looking for love in all the wrong places. I set up and got
with somebody at 17, about to get out school,
had a baby. That stopped me
from going to the Air Force, really just ruined
my whole life. I love my daughter.
She didn’t ruin it. I did by making
a mistake like they did. I’m 36 years old. I deserve to have a father. My kid deserve a grandfather. My grandson deserves
a great grandfather. I never said she
didn’t love me, but if you really
love your kid, my love is a little
deeper than that, and I’m gonna do
anything for mine. CATHLEEN: I’m sorry,
Your Honor, but don’t believe that
sympathy role. Her and Mr. Moore
are compulsive liars. How am I a compulsive
liar when I never had a dad? I raised my daughter.
I got pregnant at 15. JENNIFER: How was that a lie? CATHLEEN: I raised you by myself, without a dad. Yes, she has the right to know who her dad is,
Your Honor, ma’am, but I don’t think
it’s Mr. Moore. Okay. I wanted to submit
some evidence, Your Honor that I think helps me prove that he is my father. Okay. JENNIFER: First I have… The gray hair. JENNIFER: A birth certificate. This is a birth
certificate, you said? JENNIFER: Yes,
that was my original birth certificate right there. On the father spot,
it has a signature.Now, when I looked at that,I seen that the signature
looked new. It didn’t look as
old as my mom’s
signature on there. But I’m a kid,
so I went along with it. Last year I needed
to get a new ID.So, I go to get a new IDand they told me
that my original birth
certificate there was not good enough.
I needed to get the new one. When I got the new
birth certificate, it did not have a
father’s name on it,
not at all. JUDGE LAKE: Really?
So, that lead
me to believe… Your Honor, where is this
new birth certificate? JENNIFER: I sent it in. Because I’ve never
heard of it until now, Your Honor. JENNIFER: I sent it in. CATHLEEN: She’s lying again. So, that’s the…that’s the
other man’s signature on
that birth certificate? CATHLEEN:I know
that handwriting.
It looks like… He told me
he did not sign a birth certificate
for me. Who are you saying
forged it, Ms. Harms? Ms. Robinson. Oh, you think your
daughter forged a name? Yes, ma’am. You gave me the birth
certificate when I was 12. I didn’t give
you that with no
signature like that. Mom, it had a signature
on it when you
gave it to me. I didn’t give you that when
you’re 12, You Honor. When they got to a
certain age, 18 and up, that’s when I start
giving my kids their birth certificates… So, wait,
when you gave it to her, does it have a signature
or doesn’t it? Yes, it does. No, ma’am.
Whatever. And I also have evidence why I think we look alike. JUDGE LAKE:So, this is
a picture of…
JENNIFER:Me and Mr. Moore.JUDGE LAKE:You on the lef
and Mr. Moore on the right.
And I also have another
picture of our noses,
Your Honor, when I was younger. JUDGE LAKE:This is
side by side.
Every time
I look in the mirror
ever since I looked
at his pictures, I feel like Mr. Moore
with a wig on, so if that ain’t what it is, I need to be proved
wrong today. And Ms. Robinson,
you have premature graying. JENNIFER: Yes, that’s why
I covered it today. JUDGE LAKE: And you say
Mr. Moore had it. All over his head ever since the first time
I ever saw him when I was 12, that man had gray
hair already. And so you submitted
evidence that states, “Individuals who have
a family history “of premature gray hair
have a higher risk “of having premature gray
hair themselves.” JENNIFER: I don’t have a daddy
to compare that with. I don’t know his history, so how would I know
it came from my father? So, I want to know who my father is. I feel this man is my father. He’s saying he’s my father. God, I look like him. What more do you want? How did this relationship
with Mr. Moore begin? What was your relationship
with him? Young, dumb, stupid. My mother was never there, and I’m running around young like a chicken
with her head cut off, searching for love,
and got caught up in a web that I’m regretting
to this day because throughout all this, Your Honor,
my daughter has suffered and I’m here today
just to try to help her out and stop some
of this suffering. But she don’t think
he is my dad. CATHLEEN: No. Not at all. JUDGE LAKE:But you admit
to a sexual relationship
with him.
CATHLEEN:Yes, ma’am.How long was
this relationship? Oh, Your Honor,
I’m so old now. JENNIFER: You know,
this is the thing. Your Honor,
this is what it is. Everybody put it
to the back of their minds. CATHLEEN: It wasn’t that long.
I would say maybe couple of years
at the most. Actually, Mr. Moore has
joined us today. JENNIFER: Thank God. He is here in court and Ron, I’d like
to have you escort Mr. Moore into the courtroom. RON: Yes, Your Honor. CATHLEEN: You shouldn’t be. JUDGE LAKE: Thank you. The witness
stand over there. JENNIFER: Don’t think
you’re just a miss. He always told me
he was my daddy. CATHLEEN: The gray hair you
have like your dad. Right. JUDGE LAKE: Hello.
Thank you for joining us. You know, we’re here
for Jennifer, Ms. Robinson, and she’s indicated
through her testimony that you believe you are her
biological father, do you? Yes, ma’am, Your Honor. JUDGE LAKE: You do? Yes. Tell the court why. Well, Your Honor, she used babysit
my sister’s kids, and I used to go there a lot,
and we were having sex a lot. It wasn’t no little bit,
it’s true. And so, a few months later, I noticed a pouch
on her belly. I said, “Are you pregnant?” She said, “Yeah.” I said, “Could it be mine?” She said,
“It could be, maybe not.” Because I already
knew about somebody. That is a lie, Your Honor.
I’m sorry. How do you mean about pouch? Boy, please! (INDISTINCT CHATTER) What are you
talking about? Hold up. Hold up. She ain’t yours! And that gray hair you got
don’t make her yours either. Okay, Ms. Harms, let him finish his testimony. Later on, I heard
her father say whoever got her pregnant he was gonna do
something to him. I kind of backed
off a little bit. I wasn’t afraid,
but I backed up. I wanted to be in her life
but she took her away when she was
like four or five. Then got married, ran off. I always have said
she was my daughter because she looked like… JUDGE LAKE: You just
believed it? I believed it because
I was there… Because you were there, and when she got pregnant, you knew it was
around the time that you all were having
all that sex as teenagers. I was there a lot. Young and dumb. Young, and
dumb, and wild. Okay. That’s enough
of that testimony. We can move on
to the next point. I get it. VERNON: Yeah. So, the point was
you remember the timeframe. VERNON: Yeah. Yes, ma’am. I hate that I wasn’t in
her life a lot, you know. I missed it,
you know what I’m saying? Because I really
missed you… JUDGE LAKE: And I can see
that that hurts you. Yeah. Did you try to be involved
in Ms. Robinson’s life? VERNON: Yes, I did. How? VERNON: I talked
to her grandmother a lot. Like, one time she…
I said, “How Jennifer doing?” And she said… When she need something,
I gave her $50 then. I wasn’t making a lot of money
but she, you know, had to, you know,
to back me up. And so you would inquire
about Ms. Robinson? VERNON: Yeah, I would. JUDGE LAKE: So, earlier in Ms. Robinson’s testimony, she said that
at seven years old or so, her mother basically
said to her, “When you’re in Arkansas, “if a man named Vernon,”
which is you, Mr. Moore, “comes up to you and says “that he’s your
biological father, “tell him to get out your face
and leave you alone.” JENNIFER: Uh-huh. Hmm. JUDGE LAKE: Why do you think
she’d say that? Because I didn’t have anything
to do with her no more. JENNIFER: And when
I’d seen him when I was 12 that’s exactly
what I told him. JUDGE LAKE: You
remember that day? VERNON: Yeah. I remember. JENNIFER: He
pulled up on me. I was walking to the store, he said, “Hey, girl,
I’m your daddy.” You said,
“I’m your daddy”? Yeah. I said, “What’s your name?” He said, “Vernon.” I’m like, “Oh, that’s Vernon. “You ain’t my daddy.
My mama told me “to tell you to
leave me alone.” He said, “Girl, I’m your dad,
your mama crazy.” (AUDIENCE LAUGHS) He handed me like
200 something dollars. I went and bought
fireworks and pizza. VERNON: Ms. Harms… That was a lot of money
to me. VERNON: Because, like I said,
I broke her heart, okay? That’s what it’s all about. You say you broke her heart? VERNON: That probably
what caused that. I moved out with
somebody else, you know? And plus, I’d been
hearing about she was sleeping with
this and that, you know. I was, too, so, I… Hey, I just moved on. And so how were you feeling
when you hear this testimony? When you hear, this man, your whole life he thought
he was your biological father. He even rode up on you
and said, “I’m your daddy.” How does that make you feel? I feel happy about it
because somebody’s actually trying to claim me when I feel like I was just
a piece of trash on the side nobody wanted to claim. And I feel like I
look like you. VERNON: I agree. Clear as day. And I’m sorry
I wasn’t in your
life a lot. And I really
wanna know. I really wanna know. And we have
those results for you. (AUDIENCE APPLAUDS) JENNIFER: Oh, Lord. VERNON: Good. JUDGE LAKE: Yes. VERNON: And they’ll
match for sure. JENNIFER: Oh, nervous. I’m nervous. Oh, Lord. JUDGE LAKE: The envelope,
please, Ron. (SOBBING) Yeah,
I hope he is my daddy. I really do,
because I really need a dad. I really, really do. These results were prepared
by DNA Diagnostics and they read as follows. In the case of
Robinson v. Harms,
when it comes to 36-year-old Jennifer Robinson, it has been determined
by this court, Mr. Moore, you… …are not her father. VERNON: Mmm. Oh, my God. Then who is my daddy? CATHLEEN: Who’d I tell you
it was? Oh, you think his gray
hair was gonna do it. (SOBBING) (INDISTINCT) JENNIFER: Are you serious? I can’t believe this. CATHLEEN: You don’t know
what my life is so don’t speak on it, because I wasn’t
with no whole lot of men. Oh. You were just
the first one way down
the road at 15. I cannot believe
he’s not my dad. CATHLEEN: I tried to tell,
he ain’t your dad. But, no, I’m the lying. So, let’s go get done with it
and come right back here, and do this again. (AUDIENCE APPLAUDS) JUDGE LAKE: Listen. My courtroom is always
open for you, Ms. Robinson. If there is someone else
you’d like to… JENNIFER: Are you serious,
Vernon? So, I’m really
just nobody’s child. I still will help you
like I said I would. Oh, my God.
I cannot believe this. JUDGE LAKE: We have counseling
for you and resources. I wish you all
the very best of luck. Please help your daughter. CATHLEEN: Yes, ma’am. Help her. Oh, yes, ma’am. Court is adjourned. Jennifer, can you come up
to the bench, please? Come up to the bench,
sweetheart. (AUDIENCE APPLAUDS) Ms. Robinson, take a breath. I saw in your eyes
you had convinced yourself and you really wanted this
to be true, sweetie. I know. What we have in this moment I think is a progress that you’re not able to
see just now because you don’t have
the answer you want. But you and your mother
have a difficult relationship, I see that. Yeah. But what she has said
in this moment is that she’s gonna continue
to help you and I just want you,
for one moment, to understand
the blessing of that because really
she holds the key to what you want
so desperately, and that’s to know
who your father is. Mmm-Hmm. When you find
that other gentleman, you let us know,
we will help you, we will bring you back here, and we will try to get you
the answers that you need. Okay. Thank you.

100 comments

  1. I watched another episode with this woman and her mother and I believe she found her father. I knew as I watched this one that this wasn't the same episode I'd seen before.

  2. Lady, try testing the man your mother says is your father instead of the one she told you is not! That might get you some progress.

  3. This is so sad……her mother is a cold mean bish that's why she search the love from her father. But she just let her feel like a piece of garbage that nobody wants to claim. I feel her… I'm lucky to have both parents, but they're all cold people who never talk or hug me, not even when I'm sick and almost die! I feel so lonely I delusionally attached myself to a man (who actually didn't really deserves me, he just wanted what I can provide for him)…because I feel like a piece of trash nobody loved except for this one man…😢😭

  4. Wow he would have been a great day I was hoping she was he yours he even gave a $200 trying to do the right thing and the mother how did she know it was when she was with him and he felt her stomach to know that she was pregnant but I guess the mother knew she had other men so even though she was dealing with him I'll see you felt her stomach and he assumed it was his so sad the outcome was for me to see because I have so much compassion on this young lady to know her father and you did look like him for real the nose but not the eyes I grew up without a dad I know the feeling on Father days you have no one to write to no one to claim is sad sometimes I thank God I had such a great mother though

  5. The mom is not saying something . And she seems a bit frazzled and he’s not the father . Should’ve listened to your momma.

  6. She's been holding animosity with her mom for so long until nothing her mom says about her father she believes ! That woman knew that man wasn't her baby dad ! Honey let go and let God ! Your mom loves you now go home to your dad you been disowning ,because of what the people say around town !

  7. So the "child" presents the birth certificate her Mom gave her without the fathers signature but "they" want a new one? Where did the new one come from?

  8. i am so glad i wasn't blessed with a daughter; it's tough enough bein' a woman and have to deal with ragging hormones in someone else… loll jk this girl is so stressful…mom TOLD her. who was her dad!!! she is so disrespectful to her mom… hopefully, she doesn't have a daughter like herself… SOME people say, i'll DIE for my child, yet LIE!!! bc they won't even DIE out of a hateful charactor, so that child to be WHOLE; spendin' time honoring mother & father..

  9. why is he walkin' around like a boxer, gettin' ready to get in the ring lolll or excited to see the mother again… just to find out that she don't even care for him; IF he didn't still have feelings for her, he wouldn't have been chasing after her child…

  10. her daughter tried to MAKE this man her daddy, even though her mother said he isn't… she stressed herself out lolll i LOVED the way mom kept calm & quiet and let that bullfrog talk & her daughter act a fool.. and the look of pie on their face, when they found out the mother wasn't LYIN'… lolll what a waste of precious time & stressed she caused herself…

  11. I signed up to find my father. Hopefully I get the help I need. I’m going on 40 this yr and I feel how the daughter feels.

  12. Wow feel like trash so sad a young lady could say that about her self hope she find closure to her pain she will be ok God bless her

  13. Your mom told you who your dad is. So what do you want? If you want to be sure if your mom is right or wrong, first test the man your mom said is your dad period. If it comes out negative, then you can call her liar and so…because right now you are the liar and your mom 100% right. It is not because your dad did not step up that he is not your dad. We have so many irresponsible men fleeing their responsibilities as dad but this does not stop them from being biological dads. Anyway stop challenging your mom 36 years old lady and if you have doubts go test the person your mom said is your dad. I do not like at all the way you treated your mom. Your are wrong!!! Physical ressemblances is far away from DNA test and I believed you learnt it today with your whole 36 years old. You do need to apologize to your mom b4 you continue to look for your imaginable dad…

  14. Any woman who forges a man's signature on a birth certificate deserves to be jailed for it.

    Why do you think many men wisely choose NOT to sign the birth certificate?

    mic drop

  15. Can we stop calling the mom a hoe when she was 14 when she got pregnant? She was a child. There was something going on in her life to make her promiscuous at such an age.

  16. Her Mom's had a ton of men. I know this because old ladies like her with face piercings like she has sleep around….

  17. I sure thought they looked just alike. Sad. I could never put myself in a situation to not know who the father of my kid is.

  18. Mons grandmothers lots of overgrown stay at home kids .a lot of different who the real daddie situations . A lot of scams going on. HUD must be a real mess.

  19. To be fair to her mother she told her daughter this guy isn't the father and in the other case she was telling the truth about the guy she mentioned in this video. That's kind of on her for not listening.

  20. The beautiful mahogany queen, in the back of the plaintiff, is distracting. She's captivating❤

  21. Mama told you he wasn’t your daddy. How you bring her to court calling her a liar before testing the man you claiming she lying about? 🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️

  22. Girl you need to stop. Your mother told you who your dad is if you don't want to except it that is self destruction.

  23. I think that the mother forged the birth certificate in order to trap an innocent man, make him think that he was the father.

    If that's the case, her plan failed.

  24. I don't feel like the mom was wrong her mom told her way back then who her dad was & who wasn't her dad but the daughter was so in denial & plain out just dismissed that fact & is trying to create a pitty party here it's not like her mom told her her whole life this man was the dad then switched up no she believes what she wants to believe that's not her mom's fault

  25. Her mama doesn't seem like she was or has been the best mom. Her delivery is harsh but she said "that ain't yo daddy" and been telling her for years! She wanted to believe he was cause she wants to know that love from a father.

  26. Instead of accepting who her real father is she spent most of her life deluding herself. She didn't even accept it when she heard the results. This is her fault. "I can't believe he's not my diddy!" Hush, grown woman.

  27. Her mom has some deep seated issues. She’s a control freak, never allowed to speak her mind. Her mom knows she’s about to be busted.

  28. Am I the only person who thought the mother was the daughter, and the daughter was the mother?😳 🤔🤦🏽‍♀️

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