Meek Mill Is Working to Free a Million People from the Criminal Justice System

-Thank you for coming back
to the show. And thank you for —
-Yeah. -He was nervous by the way,
to come back. After last time.
-Well, yeah. Exactly. I mean, I don’t know how
to get into the whole thing. Just for anyone
who doesn’t know, but I’m sure everyone
already knows but you got arrested
when you were 19. -Yeah. 19 years old. I caught a case
in Philadelphia, actually. I don’t know if everybody
been to Philadelphia. But it’s an environment where,
you know, we got pockets where, like, there’s
ruthless environments, neighborhoods where, like,
drug infested neighborhoods, and you know,
being in a certain area, I caught a case at 19 years old,
which I was falsely accused of a bunch of things, and I was put
on probation for 10 years. And I’m 31 years old now, and I’m still on probation,
basically. -10 years?
-Yeah, it extended. Like, if anything happened —
like, you don’t have to commit crime, but if anything
happens along the way, they can just add years
and years and years. So, it actually got extended
to 16 years now. So I get off probation
in 2023. So, if I was to loiter,
or get a traffic ticket, I could go to jail for years. -I just don’t —
It’s just crazy to me. This seems wrong. Does the judge have it out for you,
or what is the deal? -Uh, really, like, you know, it’s just that the way
these statutes are set up, like, if you had
an 18-year-old kid, he smoked marijuana. He got locked up
for smoking marijuana, and got seven years
of probation, and then seven years later,
he had an opioid addiction, or got addicted to Percocets, the first time he takes
Percocets, he would go to jail for what?
Five years in prison. You know what I’m saying?
Not even committing — -You did get addicted, right?
-Yeah, I was addicted to opioids probably for about two,
three years of my life. I started taking Percocet,
and any time I would go to see my probation officer, you have a dirty urine,
you go to jail. We next door to
Montgomery County. I’m from the city,
but Montgomery County, you got, like, a group of, like,
Caucasian kids. They’re like — there’s a lot
of people addicted to opioids. They go to treatment.
We go straight to jail. You know what I’m saying?
So like, the laws are like, kind of different
in different counties. You know, like,
people like myself, we actually get the bad end
of the stick. Not saying that we shouldn’t be
punished for criminal activity or you should not go to jail
if you commit crime, but, uh, probation was designed for one to help
better themselves, and I’ve been on probation
for what…? -Your entire adult life.
-Really? -Yes.
-Well, now, how did you guys meet?
What’s the story here? You just became friends? -You know, we met
at the All-Star game. -Yeah, New York.
-Yeah. Probably four or five years ago. And in a lot of ways,
Meek reminded me of myself because he kept asking me
business questions like crazy. -Want to know the real deal?
I was like — He was like, “Who you?”
I was like, “Who you?” He was like —
[ Laughter ] -That is true. That is true. -One of the co-owners
of the Sixers. I’m like, “Man, how do you
get that much money?” [ Laughter ] -He started asking questions
like crazy, and I loved it, cause that’s the way
I’ve learned and grown, and what’s crazy
is I think back, you know, this — I guess this is
four or five years ago. In the last year,
you were always around. Like you were, you know,
at my house all the time, at the Sixers games
all the time. I’d be like,
“Meek, what’s up, bro? Like, get a job.
Like, what are you doing? Like, go out and perform.”
-Really. -“Like,
I don’t understand this.” He’s like, “Michael,
I can’t leave Philadelphia.” I’m like,
“Well, how do you work?” He’s like, “I’m not allowed
to leave Philadelphia.” And that was, like,
before any of this happened with him actually
being sentenced to prison. -What is the new foundation,
this new organization? -It’s a new organization. Me, Michael Rubin, Robert Kraft,
and a few others, we’ve been working on it
for the last few months. Since I’ve been —
Since I’ve been in prison, we probably
started working on it. And, you know,
the main goal is — What we got?
How many people in prison? -6.7 million people in the
criminal justice system today, in the U.S., five times the rate
of the rest of the world. -Five times the rate?
-Five times the rate. It makes no sense.
There’s no logic. It’s just a system
that was built decades ago that makes no sense,
and it needs aggressive people to say, “This is broken.
We need to fix it.” Our mission
is gonna be very simple, which is, how do we get
a minimum of a million people out of the criminal-justice
system in the next five years, and how do we, over the next,
you know, kind of long term — how do we cut
the population in half? And I think —
You know, Meek — what I’m so proud about Meek,
this is a guy who sat in prison, and every day
we talked on the phone, it was, you know, “I’m lucky. Like, I’m fortunate
to have everyone helping me. How do we help others?”
You know? “Maybe this happened
for a reason. We’ve got to change the country and help these other
millions of people that are stuck
in the system unfairly.” -Wow. Do you feel
like you’re really lucky? -Uh, yeah, I would say lucky
where I come from. [ Laughter ] Me and Tariq,
we all come from the same area. I think them guys over there
are lucky. I come from a neighborhood
where, you know, young black males lose their
life on a daily basis. Families lose their lives or are
broken up because of the system. Mothers and fathers,
their kids raised around addicts
and stuff like that. So, you know,
we made it through all of that. And, you know, just to have
the support of the people. Like, when I was in jail,
I watched the news, and seeing people
rallying around and supporting my incarceration. I’ve been going
to jail for like — If I get a traffic ticket — I left this show,
popped a wheelie, and I was in jail since.
You know what I’m saying? I went to jail,
did six months in jail. You know what I’m saying? So to have
some type of support — where I come from, we don’t
really have a lot of support, so, you know, I feel lucky. And I feel lucky to be able
to shed light on a show like this to people
that’s trapped behind walls that would never get a chance
to shed light on that situation. We got innocent people. You got people in jail from old
statutes that make no sense, that they’re just
caught up in the system. So, you know, I feel lucky. -Do you — Do people watch
“The Tonight Show”? -Yeah. Of course. Lockdown at 9:00, you know?
TV is on. You know.
-Meek is fighting for you guys. -For sure.
That’s what they know. [ Cheers and applause ] -Go to and learn more about
what these guys are doing. You guys are great. Meek Mill,
Michael Rubin, everybody.


  1. Got arrested for paraphernalia when I was 18 and put on a year probation. Before that I’d only been pulled over twice. After, I got pulled over 8 times in December. “Good police work”


  3. this 76ers owner is way too nervous/excited, he's talking all fast like a 1980s bookie, and you can tell he think he's so cool for knowing meek mill

  4. Where they gonna live when you free em if u keep letting everyone and their mother come into the Country illegally???? Id appreciate the help.

  5. Wow he said And how do we cut the population in half ? Someone enlighten me which half meek and dude there focused on cutting = killing

  6. Probation and parole is nothing more than rope to hang urself ! U get arrested for nonsense, they give u a lil bit of jail time…and that "rope." The rope is basically ur rights being taken away. Stay yo ass out of the system…ESPECIALLY IF UR BLACK !!!! There's no help or rehabilitation…only warehousing bodies for profit !

  7. Bet you Trump woulda made that charge go bye bye and no more probation, and probably could have helped with his cause, Kim Kardashian got someone out. Thanks Jay.

  8. His probation got extended for giving dirty urine samples getting in fights at the airport and traveling places he wasn't suppose to go lol. Most people who cant afford a good lawyer wouldnt have even got probation they woulda have to have done the full bid off top.

  9. When is this fucking ridiculous world we live In going to acknowledge that being addicted to a substance does not make you a criminal. its a crying shame innocent people are being locked up and costing the taxpayers billions because they smoked a joint or got addicted to heroin. Its like a disease and people are wrongly being put behind bars when what they really need is help freeing themselves from the addiction.

  10. The mass incarceration of black men has been happening since regan's war on drugs and war on crime campaigns. If you haven't already go watch "The 13th" on netflix. This is a prime example of systematic racsim.

  11. I’m from north philly still live here so for a nigga like meek to make it out the hood I’m happy cuz so many of us get stuck here some of us don’t ever make it out

  12. I hope this gets way bigger. We need to have a conversation as a nation about the prison system and the drug war. Just as a start, there are many other things that affect impoverished communities.

  13. You don't think,that the system know what they they are doing?It's broken, and they don't care.If you think you can help or CHANGE, Stop it.Its not gonna to fix.Who have the intelligence?

  14. Meek is putting a voice on our problems rather than blaming a color… every ones asking for help but don’t know what to ask for because they don’t pay attention or care enough about the common situations / #standwithmeekmill

  15. Thank god for meek mill. Our justice system is horseshit. Locking someone in a cage for 10 dollars in dope for years. Who could do that to another human being. Wow

  16. Cops and judges shouldn't ask why people hate them. They may do good occasionally, but most of the time, they're out to screw people.

  17. Old system they need to update it there stuff don't make sense what so ever it time to be open minded and you have other country already test there system and numbers don't lie

  18. Need to look into the contract with the prison and state that your problem if the prison not % filled by the state the breach there contract hmmm what u think happen state get sued by the prison just saying what I know.

  19. Almost 7 million human beings in jail in America. That makes no DAMN sense I'm sure some of those people did the crime so the punishment fit. But in my humbly opinion I sincerely think that not all 6.5 million people in the United states prison system are not all guilty…

  20. so much respect for meek and hes absolutely right this justice system is so corrupt they feed people back into the system as mush as they can to keep business flowing

  21. They do this to white and Hispanic people also not just black ones meek mill is racist for only helping black folks , all people need help . I was on probation for 15 years served 8 of them inside. This happens to everyone on probation its messed up

  22. Can some one answer me , why us a black people make our place of stay , Full of violence and crime amd drugs , black people should stand up clean up those shady business in their place of stay , cant wait to see more black business men and woman , no more black on black violence, then when a black person gets rich they leave where use to stay due to the fact that we got a lot of hate for each other , great job meek hope others can change too

  23. Meek Mill should pair up with Tim Johnson (in charge of the flint police department). He is underfunded and trying to bridge the community gap between police and citizens.

  24. If u watched as many meek interviews as I did he always say the same thing like someone gave him this spceeh to remember

  25. This is a money scam… Promoting a non profit organization…. Tax free… The people at the top arent dumb.. If u think all these millionaires are out for ur best interest there playing us all like fools..and we watch tv and support it smh

  26. My son antwan white is locked up he needs to be released now he been in for 15 years and did not kill no one or hurt no one was with somebody else and got what they got let him be one of the ones you get out meek pkease and thank you

  27. What is it with our justice system?
    Meek is pointlessly punished.
    Bill Barr is elected to US AG?
    Trump cheats his charitable foundation?

  28. This guy, Robert Williams, is a complete loser

    How is he the face of criminal justice reform?

    Everyone who is subjected to abject poverty doesn't desire to be a thug

    Robert Williams is a fraud, and anyone who supports him is foolish

    They should've kept him in jail

  29. Man this boring they never talk about the prison reform how they plan to get millions of innocent man out the jail system

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