Couples Court With the Cutlers. This is the case of
Ellison V Johnson. Y’all have been together
a total of seven years and you’re recently married.
Is that correct? Yes, your honor. Yes. All right, Miss Ellison,
why have you brought your
new husband to court today? Because I’m tired of him
cheating on me with
these BBW women. Really, body, BMW women,
body made wrong. Um, he’s been lying. And I’m just… I mean,
I’m trying to be a good wife
and I’m sick of it. So how does it feel to know
that you’ve been accused
of cheating? It feels really hurtful, sir. I love my wife,
my kids, you know. I’m here to prove
my innocence today. (AUDIENCE) Aww. Okay, how long
have y’all been married? About three months. So, this is…
Y’all should be
honeymooning at this point. Right, ma’am Take me through
when you first met. This little case
happened in July. It was hot. I had a bad day
at work. We were in
the grocery store. Um, I was frowning, of course. He walked up to me
and he said, hey, miss lady,
let me put a smile on your face. And I said– Oh, that’s a player. (SIMULTANEOUSLY TALKING) Did it put a smile
on your face? It did. It did. Okay. There you go.
Yeah. He ain’t bad at it. You know, he said,
take you out to eat,
watching movies or something. About a week later,
we did that. After that, we were inseparable. And we used to have, you know,
host couple’s nights. We’d play Spades and Dominoes.
We won. We always dominoed. Yes. Always. Always dominoes. Always dominoes. Always dominoes. You are truck tight. We always, we always stood out. Yeah. We did, you know. Actually, I want to admit,
we’d been together maybe
two months, and mama said, I think
that’s the man
you’re gonna marry. So you went to old school route
and got the mama on your side. He did. He did. So you know. DANA: Oh, yeah, yeah. Because he was the only guy
my mother wasn’t like this… When she met him,
she was like, hmm. That was huge.
My mother was like, she smiled and she liked him and even my dad didn’t
pull out his gun on him. So I knew. That’s ’cause
I had it going on. Okay. I… Sure, Mr. Cutler.
We’ll go ahead with that. Okay. Okay. So, Mr. Johnson,
what do you like about her. I like everything
about my wife, sir. Uh, you know,
she’s a good mother to my kids. She’s a great wife.
You know, she’s a,
she’s a friend. Best friend. Uh, smart mouth. Uh– But you like that. I liked it though, you know. Okay. Little fire. it’s feisty. Uh, things
I don’t like about her you know, I hate
being accused… What’s you don’t like? …of certain things. All right, so why do you have a basis to accuse
this man who seems to
love and adore you? So, about two weeks ago, Uh, we were just, you know,
chilling, having date night.
The kids were gone, he receives this phone call
and messages and he jumps up,
you have the wrong number. Nobody had said anything. So, I’m seeing him like, hmmm, who’s that?
(MUMBLING) I got
the wrong number. Okay. He I went and called
the number back.
They picked up, and they were mouthing… And blowing kisses
and stuff like that, so… Then she noticed, you know,
’cause I was in a dark lighting. Then she saw it was me,
hung up. You were looking at the– Yeah. It was a video chat. ALL: Oh! Okay, your honor,
wasn’t that. That’s not me, you know.
That wasn’t for me.
That was for my brother. (INDISTINCT) everybody’s lying. Which, your honor, which, your honor, it was for my brother. There was no cover up
from both of them. (STAMMERING) Okay.
Cover up? Fast? So is this the only time
your brother had a video chat
on your phone? Yes. Oh, it’s the only time? All right. Is that
that that’s the only time– No. I have call outs
and I have brought those
for the4 court today. Okay. Ron, would you
please get those? Thank you, ma’am. And Miss Ellison, could you
please step to the monitor and describe what
we’re looking at please. Okay, as you can see,
on March tenth, at 9:55 p.m., there was a call,
they can’t say call , lasted
on the phone for 29 seconds. And today, it was three minutes
and 41 seconds. Then Trent called them
for 53 seconds. Then he called them,
they didn’t answer.
It was a missed call at 11:17 p.m. Okay then, he missed
the video chat at 1:18. And then they called
right back at 1:19. Then, he called them back.
And they were on there
for 47 seconds. Uh, as you can see,
they’re kinda trying
to keep it short. DANA: Very. Very short. Um, then he called them twice back to back at the same time. Okay, Mr. Johnson, why are you calling this person
back and forth and having
these short chats? She’s sitting in
the room with me.
I was outside, calls back with a video chat, in her hand saying
why are you
video chatting this girl? I said, you just left me,
how can I be video chatting
this girl, I’m saying I mean, you’re having
you know I’m saying, the whole night, the whole time. So, is your testimony that that’s not you
who’s doing the video chat. That’s right. You responded. That’s right. Yes, Your Honor. So, Miss Ellison,
what else did you do
to investigate? Well, as you can see,
I called her back, she said, she said this.
Your husband calls me
all the time. Your husband called me
that night. This ain’t accurate, Your Honor. Then why would she lie
and tell your husband? This ain’t accurate, Your Honor. Okay, wait, wait, wait.
What did you say to him
after you had this conversation? ELLISON: What is this?
What’s going on? Oh, that was,
that was my brother. Why, I mean,
why would she lie on you? Okay, you can step back
to your podium. Thank you. Okay. Can I speak? All right, Mr. Johnson,
did you ever call her? No, I did not. You’ve never had
contact with her? I’ve never had contact
with her, your honor. Look. I mean,
look at the monitor. “Your husband
calls me all the time.” Yes, Your Honor. “He called that night.” So, she’s referencing
that particular night, where your wife
answered the phone. TRENT: Okay. DANA: Exactly. Okay. So, she’s rephrasing
that particular night
and is saying “Your husband
called me that night
and he calls me all the time.” I never called nobody. TRENT: I never called– Did you know who
this woman was? Oh, come to find out.
That’s why she hung up. It was our former neighbor.
We had just moved. AUDIENCE: (EXCLAIMING) Me and him, we had a fight
that night, you know, he left,
he didn’t come back. So, I was worried,
me and my friend we went looking
for him, right in around. So, that night, after this call, you had a big fight. He leaves. Mm-mm. He’s gone all night.
And this is the next day
you’re looking for him? Yeah. And then your friend
sees him, what happens? They got full up on, you know,
he himself got running. He had a box of chicken. He had a box of chicken
and threw it down, like why
would you spend your money and just throw you food
when you ain’t doing
anything guilty. And, you know,
so I went down
to the other street, you know, I kind of
blocked me in and I’m like,
wassup? Wait, wait, wait.
You did a Starsky and Hutch… Yes. DANA: All right. All right. He know I’m not– I’m like, where’ve you been? I be with no woman.
I be with no woman. I have not said that.
I asked you where have you been? That was the first thing
he says so… I mean you just thought
it’s just like a
three-year old saying I didn’t eat the ice cream
when if fell with a mouthful of
ice cream, you know. All right, go. Okay, Your Honor.
As I’m walking home,
I see her. And her car revs up. So, yes. I proceed
to take off running. You see, Your Honor, you know. I hopped the fence. You know what I’m saying,
which I dropped
my box of chicken. Aww. She said, you betrayed no me. I didn’t say that. I said no, you know. I said, babe, I love you.
I’m not cheating on you babe,
you know. So, where were you that night? Right. I mean, I was gone
with some friends, you know. Just out in those parties,
you know. Male friends or female friends? Male, you know. No females involved. Well, you know… my friends have female friends
but I wasn’t with anyone You’re the only one
without a female. So there were females there? Yes, there were. But there was no
female associated with you. That’s right. That’s what you’re telling her. That’s right, Your Honor. That was hard to believe it. Okay, why didn’t you
tell her I’m out? Me and her just had
dispute, you know. I was really kind of
mad about it, so I just left. You call back and say,
“Okay, I’m cooling out
with my fellows.” You don’t let her stay up
all night worrying.
That wasn’t very considerate. TRENT: Well, yes– They just had an argument. We just had an argument. You know, I’m not wrapped
too tight. When you get into argument,
people leave, you cool off. You don’t call someone to say,
“Hey, I’m cooling off.” You just cool off.
That’s not realistic. TRENT: That’s all. Mr. Cutler… ELLISON: Right. …let me just be very clear. Be clear and realistic. If you and me have
a cooling off period
and you stay out all night, and you don’t call me,
there’s gonna be real problems. Well… Okay, first of all,
don’t do anything
to make me leave. But that’s the first thing. And secondly,
if I’m cooling off, the last thing I wanna do
is engage you, because I might say something
that I don’t wanna say. DANA: I understand.
I think you’re right.
I think you’re right. But you have to come back
with a box of chicken. All right. Yeah. I’ll come back
with a box of chicken. All right. I didn’t eat the ice cream
with a mouthful of
ice cream, you know. If you found out he’s cheating,
then you’re done. If he’s cheating on me,
I’m gonna, today’s the end.
I’m tired of it. I’m just too sick and tired. Well, hold off one second. Your Honor, I love my wife.
You know, and I’m not cheating
on her, Your Honor. Or you know,
certain things that I do,
you know what I’m saying… is because of certain things
that she do, you know, whatever I say
is wrong, you know, uh, that’s why I’m really hurt,
you know what I’m saying, we have a family, you know,
we’ve been together
seven years. you know, have two kids, you know I just wanna make
everything all right. KEITH: All right. Well, you think there’s
something going on,
he’s using his phone to cheat. Yes. We brought in
cyber security expert,
Mr. Gregory Evans, to do a full forensic examination
of Mr. Johnson’s phone. Uh, Ron, would you please escort
Mr. Evans to the court? Yes, Your Honor. How are you? I’m fine. Yourself? Good. Now, you’ve done
a full forensic investigation of Mr. Johnson’s phone,
is that correct? Yes, I did. All right. What did you uncover? Well, the first thing
I uncovered was I went through his phone,
it was looking kinda clean. But then I noticed
he had a drop box
on there. All right. And in his Dropbox, only thing
that was in there was a video. All right. This is that video. So, when was
this video put in there? That was approximately
eight weeks ago, at 1:51 a.m. ALL: (EXCLAIMING) KEITH: Okay. DANA: Wow. KEITH: This video shows a woman
appears to be twerking. At a very close-up video
of her derriere. ELLISON: Good. DANA: I mean, real close. Who was this? A real close-up picture
of her derriere. Could you identify
who that woman was? No, I could not.
No, I could not. All right, Mr. Johnson. I can explain that. All right. Let’s hear it. So, Mr. Johnson,
what do you say? That’s the same time
as the call was. That’s my wife, Your Honor,
you know, she sent it to me. No. Did you send the twerking video
that he has? Yes, she did. I mean, I’m not
mad at you if you did. I mean, I have.
But that wasn’t me. Yes, she did, Your Honor. Okay. So, you have sent
twerking videos to
your husband before? That’s her.
That’s her definitely. But you’re telling
the court that
that’s not you in the video. Yes, it is. That’s around the same time
as the call, though. It’s definitely her. Okay, here’s the thing. I know my own twerking. TRENT: That’s right. ELLISON: Okay. And I know my own behind. TRENT: That’s right,
Your Honor. If your wife is saying
it’s not hers, I got to believe it’s not her. It’s her. I know my own derriere too. It’s her. So, Mr. Evans,
did you find anything else? Oh, yes, I did. I brought in these
four photos here. All righty. This is
a photo of a woman, nude from the waist up, and this is definitely
not your wife. This is a photo of a woman
in the bathroom nude, a side, back pose. And then we have two pictures
of a woman’s privates. Very close up. Very close up. Very close up. Can you expla– That was your brother’s too? And when were these recovered? They range from April to June. That they were see, received? On to the phone. Around the time
of those calls. All right, so, Mr. Johnson,
do you know these women? These? Yes, I do. DANA: Okay. How do you know– How many different
women are there? You say only one. It’s one woman? Yes. Okay: TRENT: It’s my wife. That is not… Which is my wife. Okay. Would you hand
these to Miss Ellison? Yes, ma’am. Are these yours? Is that you in those photos? No, no. Yes, it is, Your Honor. No. Thank you. I paid for these nails. Not mine. Not on my hand. All right. Mr. Johnson,
who is the woman
in those photographs? It’s my wife. Okay, Mr. Johnson,
this is your opportunity.
And let me tell you this. It is better for you
to tell your story than
one of our experts. That’s right. So, I’m gonna say it to you,
and ask you one more time. Do you have something
you need to tell your bride and literally your bride
’cause y’all been married
for about a few months. No, ma’am, Your Honor. (SIGHING AFFIRMATIVELY) The good news is, we ordered
a polygraph examination
for Mr. Johnson. Ron, would you please escort into the court room
Mr. Kendall Shull of
Kendall Investigation? (CROWD CLAPPING) (CROWD CLAPPING) (CLEARING THROAT) You conducted a
polygraph examination o
f Mr. Johnson? I did. Mr. Shull, you asked Mr. Johnson from 2016 up until now. Did you have sexual intercourse
with your former neighbor? What was his response? SHULL: He said no. What did the
lie detector determine? The lie detector determined
he was deceptive. ELLISON: Mmm. Mr. Johnson, the truth is gonna set you free,
one way or the other. Ms. Johnson, you’ve got
your hands on your hip. I’m trying to keep them
from going with… AUDIENCE: (EXCLAIMING) Mr. Johnson, indicates
you’ve been deceptive
with that response. Mr. Johnson, what do you
wanna say to your wife? I want to say
my wife I love her. Let me be loved. Uh, I just want to work things
that will settle my family. How can you work things out
when you aren’t being truthful? You’re being deceptive. I’m being truthful. How can you stand there and say
you haven’t done anything. Well, Your Honor, you know, ELLISON: (EXHALES) I say, I did see
someone else, sir. Did, you know, mingle
with other people, or you know, talk to someone else,
sir, you know. All right. You used the word
see somebody else,
mingle, talk to someone. What about
the sexual intercourse? Well, yes, sir. You know,
I did have sexual intercourse
with someone. Okay, so, you saw, you mingled,
you talked, and you had sexual intercourse
with someone. Yes, sir. I’m betrayed. I do want to
tell my wife that
you know, I love you. And I apologize
for those things. And it won’t happen again. I know. Miss Ellison, you should feel
you’re in a relationship
that is trustworthy, where you’ll feel secure,
where your heart is secure, and I don’t know
if this is that place. But I can’t say to you
that if you want to work it out, we have resources
to help you do that. If you don’t want to
work it out, we have
resources to help you cope very effectively together. Don’t deny yourself
an opportunity to have a happy,
healthy relationship. Court is adjourned.